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@spike said

Ok.. so I think Julie is a cunt. But that is not news to anyone.

Because we were the first ones to do a study like this… there was no protocol for it. So myself and the air quality researcher designed it. The protocol was carried out according to SMOKING study protocol because the person doing it did what they do for smoking studies (against my advice) and as a result the data of Phase 1 of IVAQS was questionable so we did it again to compare the 2 sets (both sets of data will be compared in the published article with proposed reasons for the discrepancies) after raising enough funds to do so at Vapefest. This is also not news to anyone and the fact that we did a second trial is posted on IVAQS website and has been since we did it.

The University did not sue me for sharing private data to one person without them signing an NDA.

Eissenberg said he could only buy pre-filled cartomizers for his study. I told him he should have asked people if they HAD or WOULD use a cartomizer instead of if they DO cause most vapers don’t. He said he could not change wording or protocol because he would have to go thru IRB again. I suggested that if we let people know they just needed to be willing to use cartomizers before they called in they could get more people into the study. That does NOT in any way compromise the validity of a study on physiological affects of e-cigs.

I said I was NOT starting an e-cig business with Boogie in April. 4 months later in July I decided TO start an e-cig business with Phil. I borrowed money from my family to do so (check image here… http://vapeny.com/startupchecksA.jpg) and Phil used up his savings to do so. How does that make me a liar?

What else you got?

To answer TDM’s question, on Skype, you can either accept the default name someone enters for their Skype, or you can change it.   No biggie.  And I did change the formatting a bit to make it easier to read.  Cutting and pasting from Skype is sometimes hard to follow.  Attached is a screenshot.

Edited to add:  To clarify, whatever the person’s name is set at when the conversation occurs is what it is . . . you can’t change it after the fact.

I also just relistened to the recording of the latest flame Spikey show. I was just wondering. JK says whole hardily that Spikey is a thief! He says she uses IVAQS money for her own personal gain all the time. I was just wondering, since he says Spikey paid for HIS motel room out of IVAQS money in St. Louis. WHY didn’t he say anything about this earlier??? Would this not make JK just as much a thief as he says Spikey is??

@tdm The point was that she was a liar…She had never denied it until recently…Im pretty sure that was the point. After recent logs of money spent were released there was no mention of these fees in expenses in the logs…Thats what I read and heard when I listened and read anyway…Just sayin…

JESUS JK, DEFLECT MUCH ?? I’m just going by what was said in the recording and what is posted here. You know like someone who has never heard of any of this.

If I were a new peron who did not know alot of the background. I would think that the board members of that time were just as corrupt as Spikey. Which by the way are the same people on the front lines of ALL of the attacks against her. IT is pretty evident that money was misused. But it was misused to the benefit of ALL of the board members of the NVC!! By what I have heard and read so far, Spikey did use IVAQS money to pay for the hotel rooms of board members and bought them all mods in St. Louis.

Everybody was saying how they were going to post all of the evidence that shows Spikey is what they say they are. All I have seen posted show far is evidence proving Spikey would have a really good case in court for defamation of character.

So if you have any ACTUAL evidence please post it!!! The evidence I have seen so far leads me to believe the ENTIRE board of NVC from that time need to be charged with stealing funds!!

“After recent logs of money spent were released there was no mention of these fees in expenses in the logs…”

What fees or expenses?

No one was bought a mod in st.louis… please post on the evidence page when that happened and what mods.

No one’s room was paid for in St. Louis  by NVC. The charges referred to from the Sheraton hotel paid for the CONFERENCE ROOM where the event was held, storage room (the coat room where we kept speakers etc…) for our gear and for the bartender at the event http://www.vapefest.com/MidwestVapefestBanquetChargesSheratonStLouis-1.jpg

http://www.vapefest.com/MidwestVapefestBanquetChargesSheratonStLouis-2.jpg

http://www.vapefest.com/MidwestVapefestBanquetChargesSheratonStLouis-3.jpg

Total paid by NVC was 417.39 and 100 even for storage.

There are no hotel room charges on NVC’s account. There are on my personal checking account for JKBonin’s room (statement attached).

My room was split 3 ways with April and Sonyatech and we all paid cash.